Evolution: proven fact

Another day, another argument with a creationist. It’s amazing to me how political conservatism and theological conservatism (including rejection of evolution for theological reasons) often go hand-in-hand here in the United States, even though both are mutually exclusive subjects. Can’t one believe in low taxes and evolution simultaneously?
The creation/evolution debate has always entertained [...]

ChromosomeAnother day, another argument with a creationist. It’s amazing to me how political conservatism and theological conservatism (including rejection of evolution for theological reasons) often go hand-in-hand here in the United States, even though both are mutually exclusive subjects. Can’t one believe in low taxes and evolution simultaneously?

The creation/evolution debate has always entertained me, because the position of creationists relies upon evolution not being proven, ever, while the theory of evolution is supported by each and every new piece of evidence confirming the hypothesis. Thus, it has seemed to me for a long time that creationists have been in a potentially much weaker position, because any direct evidence of evolution that ever comes to light shatters their position in seconds (though I think realistically that happened a long time ago). Evidence which was offered up by evolutionists that was somewhat equivocal – or which merely added to the general corroboration pointing to evolution – didn’t end the debate as conclusively as it should have if science were the real focus of the debate by creationists.

If the debate should not have ended decades ago with the study of fossils, it should at least have ended more recently with the study of genetics.

A few years ago, genetics became a discipline capable of increasing our understanding of our own biology tremendously. With it came the promise that we would find some kind of direct evidence for evolution in the human genome. And that is precisely what has happened. Some time ago, I was introduced to the evidence for evolution in human chromosome #2. I was pointed to a talk by Ken Miller, who expressed amazement that the evidence hadn’t been more widely reported. It is, in effect, the smoking gun, the missing link. If nothing else is ever provided as evidence for evolution (and there is plenty), this is conclusive proof of the fact of evolution. From now on, I won’t even bother to talk about the age of the universe as proven in cosmology, astronomy, physics, geology. I won’t even take the trouble to talk about the problems with reading the Genesis account literally, or biblical exegesis. I will simply present the evidence of the fusion of two ancestral chromosomes in human chromosome #2.

For those who haven’t heard and want to hear about how evolution is proven by the study of human DNA, here’s Ken Miller to explain it. Let this end the debate.

34 Comments

  1. Joe on August 23, 2008 | Permalink

    I wish that the evidence from genetics would be enough but these people are immune. If God appeared and told them that he started the evolutionary process as part of his grand design, I think they would still pay no heed to the evidence. They are like those tone deaf people who go on shows like the X Factor totally convinced that they are amazing. Even when told how rubbish they are, the truth just does not register.

    What is your opinion of people such as William F Buckley, David Berlinsky etc etc who are clearly intelligent people yet go around promoting Intelligent Design? I know that they are perhaps not overtly promoting creationism, but they seem to ignore the vast amount of evidence in favor of evolution. I find it genuinely puzzling. I suspect that Berlinsky is entirely disingenuous. He comes from the same mold as Ann Coulter, who knows that she talks total shit a lot of the time, but makes a killing doing so. But Buckley was a smart guy.

  2. John on August 24, 2008 | Permalink

    Joe, I often like these people on a ‘personal’ level, but I find their arguments intensely irritating as a theist, because they’re ignorant of a LOT of evidence suggesting the contrary of what they’re asserting. Not sure that it’s the money motivating them, but I do think the social bonds involved in religious practice make their associated beliefs very difficult to set down: losing friends and being rejected in the very social circles you rely upon for basic human interaction is a very good incentive to continue to ignore the evidence suggesting that the beliefs uniting the social group are actually bullshit.

  3. Anonymous on March 16, 2009 | Permalink

    your a dork

  4. Anonymous on March 16, 2009 | Permalink

    MONKEYS WILL RULE THE WORLD

  5. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    carl these people have problems

  6. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    they do Kris sad huh

  7. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    yes its very sad its like they have no life at all i feel bad for them

  8. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    eh they probably do but we don’t know that why are people so lame when they don’t have a life well i don’t have a life either but i still find ways to spend it in a fun way

  9. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    You guys are so funny.. I love Kris & carl.. yay..

  10. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    we love you to buddy

  11. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    oh and carl love the hat

  12. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    why thank you old chap

  13. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    Antonio is going to rule the world.. and have monkey s rule the countries.. so OBEY the monkeys..

  14. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

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  15. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    dork

  16. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    Carl is so lame.. just kidding.. cassandra’s so nosey.. she’s reading everything im writing.

  17. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    ha ha tell her to go away (just kidding)

  18. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    she’s coming to join our little cult of ours.. wahahahah

  19. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    sweet we have a cult now

  20. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    I know.. but its TOP SECRET.. okay dn’t tell anyone unless there willing to suffer the consequences in joing.. hehehehe

  21. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    ok i wont tell but what about the people who read this they might tell

  22. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    We’re anonymous.. haha

  23. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    that is so true ha take that world

  24. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    Yup Yup.. dang were so rebels haha just kidding…

  25. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    dude i dont think i like this “mission” of ours

  26. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    Why not? Its okay.. okay your right me neither.. haha hey wait whats our mission..

  27. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    its what i say it is thats what it is (just kidding) wait no im not

  28. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    haha whoa wait there just a minute.. im the ruler of the world.. your ruled by monkeys.. sleep with your eyes open.. MONKEYs are coming to get you tonight -dun dun dun-

  29. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    hey hey hey how can you be the ruler we didnt vote plus im owned my the monkey ruler so that cant be you

  30. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    the truth is hiding in your eyes
    and its hanging on your tounge
    just boiling in my blood
    but you think that i cant see
    what king of man that you are
    if your a man at all
    well i will figure this one out
    on my own
    (im screaming i love you so)
    on my own
    (my thoughts you cant decode)

  31. Anonymous on March 17, 2009 | Permalink

    Whoa who did that.. paramore lova

  32. Liam on March 18, 2009 | Permalink

    Anon

    You and yours remind me of that Onion headline: “Local idiot to post comment on internet tonight.”

  33. John on March 18, 2009 | Permalink

    Liam, I’ll say. WEIRD. :-)

  34. чaтЪлaн4ик on June 20, 2009 | Permalink

    Ну конечно! Это всем пригодится.

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