Comments on: Students protest firearm prohibition http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/ Free speech on terrestrial radio Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:41:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Response to Kevin Yuill on guns on campus | John Wright http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-2504 Response to Kevin Yuill on guns on campus | John Wright Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:01:12 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-2504 [...] first heard of the SCCC last year, wrote about it here and interviewed Stephen Feltoon (one of the organizers) a few days later on my radio show (listen [...] [...] first heard of the SCCC last year, wrote about it here and interviewed Stephen Feltoon (one of the organizers) a few days later on my radio show (listen [...]

]]> By: Dave Powell http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 Dave Powell Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:22:32 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1063 I think the situation is different from the UK to the US. Maybe there is an argument for this in the US where personal firearms are so widespread that any sort of control of the UK style would be absolutely pointless. But could you imagine having the same debate over here John? I think the longer we can keep guns out of society the better, but as I said it's different in the US and I might feel different if I lived over there. I think the situation is different from the UK to the US. Maybe there is an argument for this in the US where personal firearms are so widespread that any sort of control of the UK style would be absolutely pointless.
But could you imagine having the same debate over here John? I think the longer we can keep guns out of society the better, but as I said it’s different in the US and I might feel different if I lived over there.

]]> By: INTERVIEW: Students for Concealed Carry on Campus http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 INTERVIEW: Students for Concealed Carry on Campus Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:00:35 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1062 [...] this post I reported how this group, Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, have been protesting the [...] [...] this post I reported how this group, Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, have been protesting the [...]

]]> By: John http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1051 John Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:10:35 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1051 Guys, thanks. WTK55 is right to say that the Brady Campaign works hard to come up with good anti-gun arguments, and successfully convince people of their cause all the time. I once described those arguments as "the weakest arguments in contemporary political discourse" and I stand by that assessment; the points just don't stand up, in the real world. Despot- My answer is not more guns, as Stephen points out, it's doing away with the inequality that exists between those who'd want to do harm and those who would like to use their right to defend themselves. Wkdblue- Why place guns in the same category as drugs and alcohol? Why not say, "Burglary alarms, fire extinguishers and guns"? It would certainly be a better category placement, since guns in this context are emergency measures intended to protect lives. The age limit, by the way, is 21 and would remain so under any proposal of the SCCC. 19 out of the 32 victims at V-Tech were over 21 years old on the day of the shooting. By the way folks, I'll be interviewing Stephen Feltoon of SCCC on Wednesday and the interview will be posted to the podcast here at <a href="http://www.john-wright.net" rel="nofollow">john-wright.net</a> later the same evening. Thanks all. Guys, thanks. WTK55 is right to say that the Brady Campaign works hard to come up with good anti-gun arguments, and successfully convince people of their cause all the time. I once described those arguments as “the weakest arguments in contemporary political discourse” and I stand by that assessment; the points just don’t stand up, in the real world.

Despot- My answer is not more guns, as Stephen points out, it’s doing away with the inequality that exists between those who’d want to do harm and those who would like to use their right to defend themselves.

Wkdblue- Why place guns in the same category as drugs and alcohol? Why not say, “Burglary alarms, fire extinguishers and guns”? It would certainly be a better category placement, since guns in this context are emergency measures intended to protect lives. The age limit, by the way, is 21 and would remain so under any proposal of the SCCC. 19 out of the 32 victims at V-Tech were over 21 years old on the day of the shooting.

By the way folks, I’ll be interviewing Stephen Feltoon of SCCC on Wednesday and the interview will be posted to the podcast here at john-wright.net later the same evening.

Thanks all.

]]> By: wkdblue http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1050 wkdblue Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:25:20 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1050 Students = drugs, alcohol and now guns. Anyone see where this is leading? It shouldn't be an issue in the US as they have fairly libertarian attitudes. Would the students be allowed to carry their guns to class? Would there be a lower age limit? Students = drugs, alcohol and now guns. Anyone see where this is leading? It shouldn’t be an issue in the US as they have fairly libertarian attitudes. Would the students be allowed to carry their guns to class? Would there be a lower age limit?

]]> By: Stephen http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 Stephen Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:27:11 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1049 It's not about more guns, per se, it's about guns in the right hands. They're already in the wrong hands. S. It’s not about more guns, per se, it’s about guns in the right hands. They’re already in the wrong hands.

S.

]]> By: Despot http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 Despot Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:18:33 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1047 You people really don't have a better answer to the problems of society than 'MORE GUNS'??? No wonder we're in such shit today. You people really don’t have a better answer to the problems of society than ‘MORE GUNS’??? No wonder we’re in such shit today.

]]> By: WTK55 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 WTK55 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:47:39 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1046 Well the Brady arguments dont stand up to scrutiny do they!? I think theres a lot to be said for the arguments youre presenting here on guns and of course nobody has come up with a better argument than Brady so if theyre proved to be bogus then the whole thing has been proved to be bogus. Well the Brady arguments dont stand up to scrutiny do they!? I think theres a lot to be said for the arguments youre presenting here on guns and of course nobody has come up with a better argument than Brady so if theyre proved to be bogus then the whole thing has been proved to be bogus.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 Stephen Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:28:56 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1044 Had the guy wiped out 40 students with a lorry would we be banning lorries on campus too? Does banning guns make a difference? I don't think it does. Crazy people find a way. They always have - because they're crazy, not stupid. So, why not give the rest - the sensible and intelligent - a fighting chance. S. Had the guy wiped out 40 students with a lorry would we be banning lorries on campus too?

Does banning guns make a difference? I don’t think it does. Crazy people find a way. They always have – because they’re crazy, not stupid. So, why not give the rest – the sensible and intelligent – a fighting chance.

S.

]]> By: Greg, Sacramento http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1041 Greg, Sacramento Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:28:39 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1041 John I disagree with you on this but I did come across the page where they give some of their own answers to some arguments against allowing guns in schools: http://www.concealedcampus.org/arguments.htm John I disagree with you on this but I did come across the page where they give some of their own answers to some arguments against allowing guns in schools:
http://www.concealedcampus.org/arguments.htm

]]> By: Fenton Brown http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/comment-page-1/#comment-1039 Fenton Brown Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:04:24 +0000 http://www.john-wright.net/2007/10/26/students-protest-firearm-prohibition/#comment-1039 Thanks for this, it is a subject many people do not understand because of an irrational fear of guns as an end in themselves never mind what can be done with them. It is easy for the anti gun crowd to get away with painting a bad picture of messages like this, for example I followed your link to Brady Campaign and they have a cartoon of a parent telling his wife that they had decided to resolve the issues by giving all the kids guns and letting them shoot it out amongst themselves. Funny but actually shows a complete lack of understanding the issue of defense. Anyway great to see support for the project out there. Thanks for this, it is a subject many people do not understand because of an irrational fear of guns as an end in themselves never mind what can be done with them.

It is easy for the anti gun crowd to get away with painting a bad picture of messages like this, for example I followed your link to Brady Campaign and they have a cartoon of a parent telling his wife that they had decided to resolve the issues by giving all the kids guns and letting them shoot it out amongst themselves. Funny but actually shows a complete lack of understanding the issue of defense.

Anyway great to see support for the project out there.

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